Military Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. GLOCK Apparel, shooting supplies, and apparel. The round had an impact velocity of 1059fps (pretty close to my 1998 data) and penetrated 22.5 inches. Teflon is the nylon-type fabric used for the outside of the vest, while kevlar is the bulletproof material inside. Hydra-Shok was released in 1988 after the FBI requested a bullet with better terminal ballistics than traditional cup and core projectiles. The Teflon did not affect interior ballistics. Lead under FMJ is just fine. ). Barrel length plays a big factor in the performance of the Federal Syntech Action Pistol ammo. The most interesting in this article:The smaller the diameter of a bullet the better the penetratrion ability!? Contemporary articles and statements by Dr. Kopsch did report that Teflon added to the penetrating ability of the KTW ammunition. "Isn't it always illegal to commit a crime? GO SAFE MAG FOR GLOCK 17. Not possible. Oddly enough, Second Chance sold KTW ammunition in the 70s. Strangely, there is a wikipedia article on "cop killer bullets" which says one penetrator had a hard core with teflon coating to minimize ricochet off hard surfaces such as metal and glass. Only place I could find them was at L. B. CA. In 1983, US Representative Mario Biaggi reported that Du Pont Company officials agreed to stop selling teflon to individuals and companies that used it to make ammunition. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association. Can i register a car with export only title in arizona? In testing, the comparatively hard brass bullets wore out barrels far more quickly than standard solid lead and copper-jacketed lead rounds, since they did not deform to fit the rifling. So when 50 cent says hes got teflon on (his) chest it may be a bulletproof vest, but the teflon is NOT the bulletproof material. Still illegal. The polymer jacket encapsulates the lead core of the bullet, keeping the lead contained and providing an exterior shell to engage the rifling of the barrel. The teflon is used to mitigate this effect, but it does not make a bullet armor piercing. Teflon is a synthetic chemical made up of carbon and fluorine atoms. Uhhhh no, sorry. Hi-Tek bullets must be sized properly to the bore of the firearm they are being used in, just like every other lead bullet out there. In Stock competitive shooters coated some bullets with teflon and figured out that they chronoed faster, so used them. So the only benefit I can see would be would be that the speed may increase. The nonstick surface. http://www.scfirearms.org/2ndamend/ammo.txt, http://www.alphadogweb.com/firearms/copkillerbullets.htm. The intent was to provide cops with AP capability against criminals in cars or buildings. Item : GSGMGLK17. Teflon coated bullets were an interesting side track on projectile development, but have fallen into the dustbin of history due to an inaccurate hit piece by the mainstream media. .40 S&W 180 Grain Round Nose - Red Coated - 500ct. drimstidt357 said: When the G21 fist came out, I shot one in USPSA/IPSC. In 1982, NBC ran a story on Teflon-coated bullets. Less than 5 in stock Item #: AM96649 $0.16 per piece. They do make Nylon bullets nowTNJ manufactured by Herters. This whole cop killer bullet was/is B.S.! -- 1809, Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria's "Essay on Crimes and Punishments". However as they age they start to shed the coating, which gets trapped in the outer making them worse than a regular cable. ACME 45 (.452) 175gr SWC BULLET NLG COATED 100/BX . From Book 1: Angela is a renowned assassin `only` known by the name `the Teflon Queen`. I shot 200 grain SWC cast, exclusively. Zylon boasts a tensile strength that is 1.6 times stronger than Kevlar. This was in the early 70s when ammo was 10-25 cents a round. enhanced sights in Competition like IPSC and Speed Steel, Coating does not rub off on your hands [1] In an attempt to reduce barrel wear, the steel projectiles had a copper cup which made contact with the rifling, on brass projectiles, brass driving bands are present to engage the rifling. Aramid was originally designed for use in tyres but was later shown to be stronger than anyone could have ever imagined. Based on these tests, KTW went to Kennametal Company of Latrobe, Pennsylvania for their sintered tungsten metal called Kennertium. Thanks. Winchesters inaugural King Buck Classic sporting clays event at NILO Farms in Illinois next month will award more than $10,000 in prizes to sport shooters ages 12 to 21. A bullet with the same capabilitys but a more PC name. It is specifically designed to adequately cover a low profile gas block on a carbine or mid-length gas system barrel. The reader is probably thinking at this point, "Teflon? Only pointing out that anti-gun comments arent innocent. 5 Slot, West Virginia Gov. The production of KTW-branded ammunition eventually ceased in the 1990s. The main character says he loves 1911s. 18 Pa.C.S. Add To Cart. They were quickly relegated to police/military only. The polymer coated bullets produced slightly smaller 15-shot groups than the wax lubed bullets. Figure 5. U.S.A. - - (Ammoland.com)- In 1982 NBC ran a "Prime Time" special on Teflon-coated bullets labeling them "armored piercing . @Shawn Wesley Knight: Just shows that the producers of Ronin werent immune to Hollywood gun inaccuracies. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. For mid pressure rounds (9x19, .38 Super, etc. BENEFITS OF BADMAN POLYMER COATED BULLETS. They are so smooth, and don't bind on the sealed sections of cable ends. Coated bullets eliminate this problem. Like there are no second hand unregistered gun sales. You might think there were thousands of them in the hands of bad guys.). "Only the dead have seen the end of war." Dramatically reduced smoke. KTW teflon-coated bullet - Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association (a) Offense defined.-It is unlawful for any person to possess, use or attempt to use a KTW teflon-coated bullet or other armor-piercing ammunition while committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence as defined in section 6102 (relating to definitions). The inventors, having also noted that the tips of canes were frequently covered with the relatively soft and malleable Teflon to help them grip surfaces, found that the addition of Teflon helped to prevent bullet deflection off of vehicle doors and windshields, further improving penetration against those surfaces.[2][3]. Incendiaries, to include napalm, flame-throwers, tracer rounds, and white phosphorous, are not illegal per se or illegal by treaty. The KTW was made in many calibers with various bullet shapes and bullet materials. Forgotten was the Remington Golden Saber. The Akron Zips rifle team wrapped up its record-breaking season with a fifth-place finish in the eight team-field at the 2023 GARC Championship on Feb. 25-26 at WVU in Morgantown, West Virginia. Go figure?. Finally, it is up to the maker of the bullet to apply coatings correctly for best results. CA. Smith & Wesson has released a new optics-ready 9 mm folding pistol carbine called the M&P FPC. Teflon coated bullets cannot penetrate body armor. Dragnet said it Only the Facts Mam, Only the Facts. These bullets are illegal in NJ even though a quick Google search will tell you that these bullets wont go through body armor and the best bullet to penetrate . Use PC Bullets. Now the world at large remembers Teflon coatings on bullets as some sort of magical round that zips through bullet proof vests because of the magic of Teflon. They are regular cast boolits with a coating applied. [4], Several calibers of KTW rounds were proven to penetrate ballistic vests under certain conditions. The only ones i kept was trap & skeet 97 out of 100 & Civilian/Police combat shooting in Hunt. New! The 9mm wax-lubed bullets averaged 1080 fps and the Hi-Tek coated bullets averaged 1071 fps. The GUN LAWYERS board Free gun related legal advice. $80.99. Back in the late 80s someone tried to market teflon coated lead bullets. In reality, as noted above, Teflon and similar coatings were used primarily as a means to protect the gun barrel from the hardened brass bullet, and, secondarily, to reduce ricochet against hard, angled surfaces. Make some aluminum or Titanium bullets on a Machine Lathe. Yes, I'm aware of the warnings in the manual. I threw out all my shooting trophies years ago. Gun: Glock 34 Gen 3 (Factory Barrel) Bullet: X-Treme 147 gr. Powder Coating (PC) is simply the process of treating your cast bullets with a baked-on polymer coating. bullets can be pushed faster with no leading. The two bowls contain the media, moly, and bullets and then go into a vibratory-type tumbler. Figure 4. It was only effective at the target enabling the bullet to better slip through the metal barrier. Sold at Cabela's by Herter (Cabela's own brand) but made by CCI/Federal. Teflon coated bullets penetrate the body very easily and their manufacture is banned in many western countries. Still, after the company folded, other companies such as Colt, Glock, Sig Sauer, Remington, Smith & Wesson, and Springfield Armory . Since then use starr brass new, Hornady XTPS hollow pt and Hornady and speer fmjs flat nose 170 grns. Looking at a box of them right now 1 of 100 @ 7.95 per box of 20. But if you want to remember how incredible this planet is, go out into nature. like Moly, Coating does not build up in your This destroys bullet fit and decreases accuracy and increases fouling. Likely the best example of this is in one of my favorite movies, Lethal Weapon 3. 3. In Virginia, it is legal to possess and shoot teflon coated bullets for personal purposes, however if they are used to commit a crime, then an extra charge gets tacked on to the list of charges against the offender.Hope this clears things up. The exclusive polymer coating of the American Eagle Syntech allows the bullets to glide through the barrel eliminating the copper and lead fouling. Molybdenum Disulfide is the most popular bullet coating. S&W I believe only had 357 mag teflon coated bullets in the 70s-80s. In 1982, NBC broadcast a television special on Teflon-coated bullets that argued they were a serious threat to American law enforcement because of their supposedly increased ability to penetrate ballistic vests. Armor-piercing ammunition is designed to penetrate ballistic armor and protective shields intended to stop or deflect conventional bullets. It took several years for them to come to the attention of the media and other anti-gunners. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Check the bullet manufacturer's website for details. Since when was a box of handgun ammo only 20 rnds? Some polymer coatings can reportedly be driven to 2000 fps or better, such as claimed by Eggleston Munitions, which makes them a possible choice for some rifle loads. Generally, the coatings are good for velocities in the 1200-1500 fps range, similar to copper plated bullets, which covers the speeds of most handgun cartridges. The third thing- construction material- by far being the most important. Some experts even suggest that Teflon-coated bullets were significantly worse when it came to penetrating Kevlar but nonetheless, several states have restrictions in place for the ownership. (The two NCIS shows are especially bad in the constant use of fully automatic weapons by bad guys. .45 ACP 230 Gr. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. It lubricates the bullet and reduces friction when the bullet travels down the bore. Armor-piercing handgun ammunition is federally banned for civilian use or ownership in the U.S. It has to do with the hardness of the bullet material. JavaScript is disabled. Thousands were shot (not by me), and there were no issues with the design or use of teflon. While hollow points are commonly used by police and civilians, they are banned in international warfare under the 1899 Hague Conventions early laws of war that the United States has followed even though the U.S. government never ratified the agreement. Never one reported instance of any person, vest or not, being shot with a teflon-coated bullet. This is still pushed by a PC media. For reference here again is the Pa Law. In 1982, NBC ran a television special on the bullets, supposedly against the requests of many police organizations, wherein it was argued that the bullets were a threat to police. Kevlar fiber is used in rope and in cable, where the fibers are kept parallel within a polyethylene sleeve. - Plato. Teflon was used on bullets that had hard jackets designed to pierce armor. Spider silk is said to be one of the strongest, toughest materials on the Earth. Sometimes a gun doesn't like a particular bullet/load, and it takes time to find a combo that works, be it cast, coated or jacketed. The use of full metal jacketing in military ammunition came about in part because of the need for improved feeding characteristics in small arms that used internal mechanical manipulation of the cartridge in order to chamber rounds as opposed to externally hand-reloading single-shot firearms. A simple field test I use in order to . The inventors, having also noted that the tips of canes were frequently covered with the relatively soft and malleable Teflon to help them grip surfaces, found that the addition of Teflon helped to prevent bullet deflections from vehicle doors and windshields, further improving penetration against those surfaces. Some. Why is that so dangerous?" An even stronger material is being developed that may be up to three times as strong as Kevlar, and it comes from what may seem a rather surprising host, the spider. Are plate carriers authorized in the army? Kevlar is sometimes used as a substitute for Teflon in some non-stick frying pans. Compared to lead rounds, they release no toxic gas that can float in the air and create unsafe conditions. The maximum recommended operating temperature for this high temperature thread is 400F / 205C. There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of places to get these coating jobs done. The polymer coated The green Teflon (black teflon for several large bore calibers) material added to the bullets was designed to actually grip smooth surfaces such as glass and metal, and not to make it "slip" easily through kevlar. I bought a lot of Winchester 10mm silver tips when i got my first Glock because there wernt any cases for reloads for about a year after that until starr brass popped up at the gun shows. Remember the Wnchester Black Talon? Some news articles even went so far as to label them as "cop killers". The 6 ounces worth of moly powder will coat thousands of bullets. Add To Cart. used to describe someone who manages to avoid criticism and keep a good reputation, even after they have done something wrong: The Teflon President survived the crisis with his reputation intact. This led various US gun control organizations to label these types of bullets with the epithet "cop killers". In some states (such as both Carolinas, OR, OK), it is illegal to even possess teflon coated bullets for personal use. [When] the price of tungsten alloy went to $1.00 per inch of 3/8 diameter rod and it [2]. a moment ago. GS employment, work networking group and business directory, Lives and Property successfully defended with guns. ), Firearm Dealers / Gun Shops / Firearms Training Facilities. Traditional wax lubed and identical coated bullets used for accuracy comparison. Youre Dead: 5 Deadliest Bullets In The World. [4] However, many individual states have legislation restricting various kinds of coating materials. Figure 7. bullets is a little slower and time Polymer coated bullets combine several of the advantages of hard cast lead and jacketed bullets. Word got out, some legislator got ahold of the info, made a stink about it, they were illegalized. RN - Sized to .452 (Typical). Lots of people shoot powder coated bullets in CZ's, Glocks and 1911's without problems. the bullets had a hard bronze core and the softer teflon helped the bullet gain traction in the barrel grooves. Madness is like gravity; all it needs is a little push. But 20+ years in aircraft ind. Incendiary Munitions and the Laws and Customs of War on Land. Virginia state law specifically bans "bullets, projectiles or other types of ammunition that are: coated with or contain, in whole or in part. RN - 500 Ct. - Bayou Bullets Home Hi-Tek Supercoat Premium Bullets .45 ACP 230 Gr. Various gun control organizations in the U.S. labeled Teflon-coated bullets with the epithet "cop killers" because of the supposedly increased penetration the bullets offered against ballistic vests, a staple of the American police uniform. Compared to our grandfathers and even our fathers, we get to enjoy more choices for bullet design; these choices include polymer-coated bullets. The inventors named their company "KTW," after their initials. The purpose of these rounds is to hold their trajectory, and they have greater penetration against soft tissue. Deniro may be a good actor but I remember seeing a picture of him standing behind Al Gore during the presidential campaign. Somebody else tried a tefloned bullet on a bullet proof vest (kevlar, IIRC) and it went through. The MFR has been engineered to p purchasing or giving away any cartridge that can be fired by a handgun and has a plastic-coated bullet that has a core of less than 60% lead by weight, whether the person knows or has reason to know that the plastic-coated bullet has a core of . So spraying the bullets with teflon (then allowing them to dry) makes them armor piercing (against soft armor I'm assuming)? . At close to 3000fps wont your .357 rounds overpenetrate pretty much, well, everything? Teachers, quite often and unfortunately, plant seeds of 'knowledge' which isn't. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. There's a couple of gun shops selling black coated bullets as "Teflon coated". The .45 ACP is loaded today with two basic bullet types. Government firearms used in attacks or robberies, Firearms, Accessories and Related Equipment Video Clips, Adventures, Outdoors, Conservation and Cooking, Nature Conservation and Wildlife Discussions, Shooting Associations, Representatives, Organisations and Clubs, Mpumalanga Practical Shooting Association - IPSC, North West Practical Shooting Association (NWPSA), Shooting / Sporting Events, Matches, Days, Classifieds - Firearms, Guns and Accessories for Sale and Wanted, Accessories for Sale (Parts, Magazines, Stocks, Scopes, Reloading etc. There is the FMJ round-nose (or its cast equivalent) 230-grain bullet for practice, target and competition. Primer: Federal 100 Case: Federal LOAL: 1.145 Oklahoma - Teflon-coated bullets are illegal in Oklahoma under some circumstances. The KTW (named after the designers Kopsch, Turcus & Ward) is the ammo that everyone is referring to when they speak of "Teflon" and "cop killer bullets" in a single breath. . The KTW Teflon coated bullets go back before the wide use of soft body armor. Government firearms used in attacks or robberies, Firearms, Accessories and Related Equipment Video Clips, Adventures, Outdoors, Conservation and Cooking, Nature Conservation and Wildlife Discussions, Shooting Associations, Representatives, Organisations and Clubs, Mpumalanga Practical Shooting Association - IPSC, North West Practical Shooting Association (NWPSA), Shooting / Sporting Events, Matches, Days, Classifieds - Firearms, Guns and Accessories for Sale and Wanted, Accessories for Sale (Parts, Magazines, Stocks, Scopes, Reloading etc. Waxy lubes can build-up in dies. Ronin is an anti-gun screed. The cables have been used in suspension bridges such as the bridge at Aberfeldy, Scotland. Before the 5.7 and Glock scares, we had teflon coated ammo . However, as Kopsch pointed out in a 1990 interview, "adding a Teflon coating to the round added 20% penetration power on metal and glass. This error got repeated in the second "V" mini-series. 9mm lead core Teflon coated ammo penetration test in mountain Clark range Philippines Teflon coated bullets were an interesting side track on projectile development, but have fallen into the dustbin of history due to an inaccurate hit piece by the mainstream media. Say hello to the Aero Precision EPC-9 PCC, Vista Outdoor Back Ordered to the tune of $1 Billion. .40 S&W 180 Grain Flat Point No Lube Groove - Black Coated - 1000ct. 380 Round Nose 9mm 115grain Round Nose 9mm 124gr Round Nose 38 148gr Double Wadcutter 38 158gr Round Nose 38 158gr Semi-Wadcutter 40 165gr Flat Point 40 180gr Round Nose Flat Point 45 230gr Round Nose Buy PC Bullets Are you a reloader?
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